{"id":2764,"date":"2025-06-11T09:03:20","date_gmt":"2025-06-11T01:03:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/?p=2764"},"modified":"2025-06-11T09:03:20","modified_gmt":"2025-06-11T01:03:20","slug":"reasoning-llms-not-reasoning-at-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/2025\/06\/11\/reasoning-llms-not-reasoning-at-all\/","title":{"rendered":"Reasoning LLMs not reasoning at all"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/daringfireball.net\/linked\/2025\/06\/08\/apple-research-lrms\">Daring Fireball: Apple Researchers Publish Paper on the Limits of Reasoning Models (Showing That They&#8217;re Not Really &#8216;Reasoning&#8217; at All)<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/machinelearning.apple.com\/research\/illusion-of-thinking\">The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity &#8211; Apple Machine Learning Research<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Daring Fireball: Apple Researchers Publish Paper on the Limits of Reasoning Models (Showing That They&#8217;re Not Really &#8216;Reasoning&#8217; at All) The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity &#8211; Apple Machine Learning Research &nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2764","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2764","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2764"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2764\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2765,"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2764\/revisions\/2765"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2764"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2764"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/menogue.com\/evan\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2764"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}